BREAKING NEWS: Bowdoin Asks For Extension; Lawyer Says ‘Entire Matter’ Could Be Resolved In Agreement
UPDATED 5:06 P.M. EDT (U.S.A.) The attorney for AdSurfDaily Inc. President Andy Bowdoin has asked a federal judge to extend a key filing deadline until Sept. 21.
UPDATE 5:06 P.M: Judge Rosemary Coller, in a minute order just issued, has approved an extension until Sept. 14, not Sept. 21, as Bowdoin had requested.
Charles A. Murray, Bowdoin’s attorney, said in a court filing today that he had “engaged in continuing negotiations with the Government and it appears that these negotiations could result in an agreement resolving the entire matter.”
Bowdoin had been ordered to show cause by Aug. 7 why his motion to undo a decision he made in January to forfeit tens of millions of dollars seized by the U.S. Secret Service in a wire-fraud investigation last year should not be denied. The prosecution agreed to an extension until Aug. 28, and Judge Rosemary Collyer granted the extension.
Today’s Bowdoin pleading was filed as a stipulated motion. Prosecutors did not object to Bowdoin’s requested delay until Sept. 21, but Collyer approved a delay only until Sept. 14.
Read Bowdoin’s motion.
Your timing was perfect. Steve was likely typing his exit letter at the time you posted…
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Due to secruity reason and threats to my Family,
We will be revenue sharing to all the members that request a cashout this week. I really really wanted to continue but with the current events with the scammers and the hackers and the attacks to the site I just cannot continue the revenue sharing portion of the program.
PLEASE READ ENTIRE NEWSLETTER (this will be our last revenue sharing Week)
We will be putting a cashout request on the site and please give as many payment proccessors as you can so that it will be easier for us to complete all revenue sharing payouts, .
All members that have cashed out out revenue and is in profit you will be able to keep your purchased ventures and use the product that you have purchased but will NOT Share in this last Revenue Share. The remaider of the members will be invovled in this last revenue share and will have the opp to request a cashout and share in our Revenue. We have enough revenue to make this worth your wild to collect on. We have never missed a revenue share and will not miss this one either.
If you do not request a cashout we will consider that you purchased advertising and did not intend to share in our Revenue.
This Revenue share will be the total share of more than 75% of all earnings plus 90% of all other income that has came into our program that has not been previously cashed out. We will have the cashout button on the site for several days so that all that has not shared that qualifies will have the opp to get involved in the last Revenue Share.
The site will continue to grow and we have a great place to advertise and you will see allot more products to purchase. We are better than traffic swarm and we are listed on google as number one.
We have been threatened and my family is more important to me than most will know. We Never ever said the revenue share was a set % and inorder to move other income forward I made a decision that put my family in danger and I will not tolerate that.
99% of the members understood where we were going but the small % that I am scared of I just cannot risk because we really are who we said we are and we really did intend to move us into the future.
We will not be answering scary support or answering the phone anymore until we have completed the cashout requests.
The gold site will continue and we do have a referral commission program.
How the cashout will work,
They will be a Cashout button put on the site and it will ask you for some info, please fill out as many fields as you can, You will have needed to surf to get your cashout that has not changed. All upgrades from this point that has been sent thru the mail will be returned to the sender.
Once the Revenue Share is complete that will be the final one and all earnings will have been paid out and we will end our Revenue Share portion of the site.
We cannot control the Members so please give us to Aug 4th to process all payments because if members complain to the payment proccessors and they Freeze our accounts we will not be liable for any of the cashouts and the Revenue Share monies will held by the payment processors and we will not have control and they will only pay a portion of the monies back to the members. We have never pulled monies out of the proccessors only added to them so please we will lose control of members monies and we will no longer be responsible and will end the revenue share immediatly. If this happens then all Revenue will be handled thru the payment proccessors and all members will keep the product they purchased and be able to use that product and they will rely on the payment proccessor to share the revenue. WE WILL NOT BE HELD LIABLE IF THIS HAPPENS.
I have put my heart and soul into the site and done my very best. Thanks Steve Smith
I will continue to communicate until the proccess is over so that you will not have to worry that I am not going to do what I said I was going to do. I have never ever missed a Revenue Share payout and will not miss this one either if you let me. I will tell you if members freeze the accounts and you can try and get your cashouts thru the proccessors.
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dirty_bird(Quote)
Nah,
Ho Hum
boring and predictable.
I still like the “our offices were firebombed and then a cyclone blew away our servers” one better.
littleroundman(Quote)
It was not an analogy, Joe, it was from a published book and recognized by we who speak English. Don’t blame me, I didn’t form the conclusion it was a synonym, some really, really smart person did that. Argue with them, ya big dufus! As far as my level of intelligence, I still beat you by a mile. I can spell Promoter, at least… and by being sophomoric, I beat you by at least 5 grade levels. Thanks for the compliment…
Wanna tell me again how well this auto surf is doing???
Don – possible secret government agent(Quote)
jtm,
I don’t think you’re stupid — I think that you are criminally pushing an illegal enterprise and as you’ve posted, you don’t care……nice.
Entertained(Quote)
jtm,
Actually, it has been proven beyond a mathematical doubt that only 16% could have made money in AVG, and a slightly higher % in AV4U (because the chief scammer didn’t keep as much as the AVG heads). See Eagle’s site — I know you know the way there. I am still waiting for your detailed analysis of how I am wrong in my analysis of those two scams. You’ve been pretty quiet on that front. Why? Such simple questions I ask of you, yet no coherent answers, or a whiff of a counterproof. Someone who claims to know the math forwards and backwards should be able to make short work of disproving my proof, but alas, it stands unchallenged…….
Entertained(Quote)
jtm,
Absolutely you are 100% correct (bet you never thoughts I’d say that) in your statement “if they (the gov’t) had left it alone a lot of people would have their money now.” You do show with this statement that you do understand Ponzi schemes. Those people who were in loss, had ASD continued unencumbered by the gov’t, would be in profit by now assuming that ASD could have recruited enough new suckers/members to pay off those earlier “losers.” Problem is, the number of losers required to make winners of the people who were losers at the time of the seizure is MUCH greater than the # of losers last Aug 2. THAT is why these things are illegal jtm, as you well know and acknowledge, while admitting that you don’t care. By the way, the same 16% winners applies to ASD as well, but rather than have you defend ASD, I’ll ask Jeff Vavra to do so (he claims to really, really understand the ASD math and believes it passionately to this day)
joe the magnificent (and good looking): I never said it made it legal, what does that have to do with the feds? I said if they had left it alone a lot of people would have their money now.
Entertained(Quote)
Entertained,
I’m not sure what the current argument in the ASD universe against your math is.
Last I’d heard, the argument against the government’s math was something along these lines: No flunky with a J-O-B serving his country could be relied upon to parse what only Andy could understand.
The current argument on whether rebates were guaranteed or not, however, seems to be a hybrid of the lottery is legal and no one gets in a snit when McDonald’s sells greasy food.
On a side note, the current math on bank failures in the United States this year is 84:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/28/news/economy/bank_failure/?postversion=2009082819
Only a few banks failed in 2007.
Of course, some promoters have used the liquidity crisis as a reason to join the surfs.
These “advertising” services might be incapable of issuing a comprehensible news release, but they sure do know how to get marks to wire their cash to people who use Hotmail addresses at the offshore processors.
The purported ADV4U guy’s resume reads like this:
* July 2008: Oprah scam. Hotmail address.
* December 2008: ADV4U (after ASD, Golden Panda and LaFuenteDinero seizures.) Hotmail address.
* August 2009: Gold-harvesting site. Hotmail address.
It’s OK, though, because of the lottery and cheeseburgers — and because Social Security is a Ponzi scheme and prominent retailers offer rebates.
And because civil servant = flunky.
Patrick
admin(Quote)
I received the following email regarding Andy and the Sept. 14th date. I can not confirm any of this as being legit.
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From: Mattoon Sara
Date: Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:26 AM
Subject: ASD Update
To:
Hi Everyone-
I have had a lengthy conversation with Andy and a few followup ones. He has given me permission to give you this update.
The government is really playing hardball and the negotiations are very intense. As things stand now (subject to last minute changes) it will all be over September 14. When that occurs, Andy plans to have a conference call to talk to all of you. Hopefully your email address is the same as the one ASD has for you so you’ll receive that conference call alert in a timely manner. If not, let your team members know that you need to be alerted. The plan is to record the call so, if you miss it, there will be a followup message going out that will give you the procedure to get on that recorded call, so please don’t email me to ask me what happened on the call. Remember that technical difficulties always occur so it’s better to get onto the call live than count on getting it later in recorded fashion. Please keep an eye out on your emails as, when this occurs, it may happen very quickly– with not a lot of notice.
A handful of people have sent messages that they don’t understand why Andy hasn’t communicated to everyone and, to them, that means Andy is a crook. Those people don’t realize that, when a person is involved in a legal issue, their attorneys counsel them not to discuss anything with anyone. Why? Because those who want to win the case against that person will look for anything the person says, take it out of context, and use it against the person. It’s very commonly done and done effectively. Many innocent people are in jail because of that very mistake. Andy couldn’t take the chance. Please know that this has been very hard on him, not being able to talk to you directly.
Many Blessings to you all.
God Is With You All,
Sara
Joe(Quote)
A handful of people have sent messages that they don’t understand why Andy hasn’t communicated to everyone and, to them, that means Andy is a crook. Those people don’t realize that, when a person is involved in a legal issue, their attorneys counsel them not to discuss anything with anyone. Why? Because those who want to win the case against that person will look for anything the person says, take it out of context, and use it against the person. It’s very commonly done and done effectively. Many innocent people are in jail because of that very mistake. Andy couldn’t take the chance. Please know that this has been very hard on him, not being able to talk to you directly
Well I guess we now know that if and when Andy Bowdoin is jailed, it wont be his fault. It will be the fault of anyone who testified against him.
I am amazed, at this stage of the game, that anyone would believe anything that Bowdoin. He has demomonstrated his capacity to look people in the eye and lie many many times now. NO ONE involved in any way with ASD can have missed that.
The only effect this “report” has had on me is to make me want to throw up. How hypocritical can he get?
alasycia(Quote)
Quick note:
The note as posted above is from “big joe,” as opposed to “little joe.”
Patrick
admin(Quote)
Thanks Patrick for making that distinction 8>)
Big Joe
Joe(Quote)
It would seem that Sara Mattoon, or at least that moniker is associated with ASD. What she’s trying to accomplish is another matter.
http://cybersurfmonitor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148
dirty_bird(Quote)
…..and apparently she was one of the early insiders, maybe as an employee, in their IT area.
http://www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php?s=1dc1a8db6bd5c0bde47b2fcad1e71719&showtopic=8892&st=480&p=174131&#entry174131
Posted by marketman, on the ASA forum:
“I’m extremely happy. I earned $195 yesterday and haven’t recevied my daily referral fees yet, which should bring it well over $200, I’m sure.
I received a long email from Sarah Mattoon, as I imagine some of you did also. Very nice and helpful lady, that’s going through a trial now. Her husband has been in serious condition for some time now, because of an accident, and she herself was also recently involved in an accident.
This didn’t stop her from communicating though. She did say it is hard to keep help. After they are trained, which takes another support person to do, they don’t stay.
She mentioned checking the news section, and if you have exhausted all other avenues, contact her.
There have been ddos attacks also, and had to build a special firewall to protect the site. Hundreds of cashouts have been going out every day.
There were issues with the fastmax card. The company apparently was changing fees, that was not agreed upon.
She asked Andy directly how the health of ASD was, and he said it was solid.
We need to have patience here. The site is running smooth now, our balances are being corrected, etc.”
Entertained(Quote)
I posted Sara’s letter on the Surf’s Up forum. One replay says that we can trust Sara because she is honest. They told us Andy was “honest” too. Another post asks who they contact at ASD to tell them of an address change so ASD can return their money to them.
Don – With an Agenda(Quote)
I sure as hell hope that none of my relatives joins a Ponzi. It seems threats, bad health and other accidents go hand in hand with these operations.
dirty_bird(Quote)