BREAKING NEWS: AdVentures4U, New Darling Of Surf World, Says It Was Threatened; Note Says Cashouts Will Be Suspended Soon And Members Will Have To Make Do With Their ‘Advertising’ Purchases; Ponzi Forums In Uproar
UPDATED 11:57 A.M. EDT (U.S.A.) There are widespread reports this morning that AdVentures4U (ADV4U), the new darling of the autosurf world, is suspending “revenue sharing” and that its owner was threatened.
The reports come on the heels of various reports that the surf slashed payout rates and poured money into a gold-buying business known as TradingGold4Cash. ADV4U purportedly had more than 60,000 members and positioned itself as a “marketer’s dream.”
These remarks were sent members today and were attributed to Steve Smith, the purported owner of AdVentures4U.
Smith purportedly acknowledged that he put his family in danger by starting an autosurf.
“We have been threatened and my family is more important to me than most will know,” Smith purportedly said. “We Never (sic) ever said the revenue share was a set % and in order to move other income forward I made a decision that put my family in danger and I will not tolerate that.”
“99% of the members understood where we were going but the small % that I am scared of I just cannot risk because we really are who we said we are and we really did intend to move us into the future,” Smith purportedly said. “We will not be answering scary support or answering the phone anymore until we have completed the cashout requests.”
Smith purportedly urged members not to contact offshore payment processors to file complaints, saying any suspension of offshore accounts would result in members getting lower refunds.
“We cannot control the Members so please give us to Aug 4th (sic?) to process all payments because if members complain to the payment proccessors (sic) and they Freeze our accounts we will not be liable for any of the cashouts and the Revenue Share monies will held by the payment processors and we will not have control and they will only pay a portion of the monies back to the members,” Smith purportedly said.
It was not immediately clear why the message cited the Aug. 4 date — a date in the past.
AdVentures4U purportedly conducted business with a Hotmail address. The gold site purportedly is a subsidiary.
The ADV4U website appears still to be functional, although an audio message that once started up upon the loading of the page appears to have been disabled.
Hello William,
You’re right about this, William. It was anger. Doesn’t make my decision yesterday wrong, though. Basically, I started being wrong about this on Aug. 14, the date joe hurled insults because the spam filter trapped two of his posts and he didn’t get the gratification of seeing them immediately.
Trying to err in joe’s favor, I gave him a warning to stop misdirecting threads. Looking back on it, I should have blocked him then.
William, I am not running from joe. joe licensed himself to be chronically abusive. I tolerated it for a while, believing it was in the best interest of the story to do so. Basically I thought it would be useful for people to see the vulgarity and deflections from a person who claims to be a POW and proponent of Ponzi schemes.
One doesn’t see this kind of thing every day — the unapologetic, vulgar defense of Ponzi schemes — and from a purported POW, no less.
joe’s opinion was that this Blog was nothing, so it follows that like-minded readers who declare a sort of victory are declaring a victory over nothing.
Some ASD folks will manufacture victories out of whole cloth if need be. Some of them even divined a victory from an order by a federal judge for Andy Bowdoin to show cause by Aug. 28 why his motion to undo his decision to submit to the forfeiture should not be denied.
The judge was telling Andy in no uncertain terms that the 11th hour he had put on hold for six months was nigh, and some of the troops created the fantastic story that the judge had ordered prosecutors to demonstrate ASD was a Ponzi scheme by Aug. 28.
Patrick
admin(Quote)
We have every penny we have in the company in the payment processors and some members just could not wait and see that we were going to pay all of you so they decided to start complaining to the processors.
Now we have alertpay that is frozen. I have gotten solidtrustpay and strictpay all straightened out and now when I am getting ready to pay out I went to alertpay and the majority of our funds are frozen. Thanks to a few, none is getting paid until Tuesday because I did not realize it was frozen until I just logged in to do the payrun.
I have no choice but to wait until I get the account unfrozen on Tuesday.
VERY IMPORTANT, IF YOU DON’T WANT THE PAYMENT PROCESSORS TO DIVIDE THE MONIES TO THE MEMBERS AND THEM TAKE A LARGE % OF THE FUNDS THEN PLEASE DO NOT REQUEST A REFUND OR CASHOUT. IF YOU WANT TO HURT MANY PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU WILL GET MORE THRU THEM, YOU WON’T AND YOU ARE JUST MAKING IT BAD FOR THE GROUP.
Yes I am upset, I worked all week putting this together. I have never ever missed a payrun and now a small few has taken that and made a huge mistake. SOME THINK I HAVE CHANGE FROM THE LAST 10 MONTHS? WHEN I SAY I AM GOING TO DO SOMETHING I INTEND TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!
For the ones that believe that my intentions are real this does not pertain to you. For the ones that think that I am ripping members off and doing the wrong thing, here is the scoop. I do not take 25% like the website says, I took less than 1% because I want the gold site and the adventure members to earn like never before.
I am so so upset, please give me to Tuesday, if not I will let all of you know that I cannot get the payment processor to reverse issue and you can the request thru them. But here is the scoop, every penny we have is in the processors because I have been dumping everything I have in there to do this payrun.
I have enough to purchase gold and that is completely all I have. So if I cannot get reversed. This is in your hands.
Steve Smith
I can get it fixed but all has to be calm or I cannot and then you will have to get your money from them.
Steve Smith
Perhaps this is why poor lil joe is so cranky.
Whip(Quote)
SRS stiffed the members and blamed them. I’m shocked and utterly speechless.
At least we know he wasn’t kidnapped by aliens and is being held hostage in a trailer park in Arkansas.
We also know that Elvis didn’t stop by and spend all the money on peanut butter and bananas.
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Hi Whip,
Thanks for passing the info above along. Man, this is insidious.
Start a surf. Collect money. Make payments to gain trust. Start a Gold venture of some sort that asks people to send gold in the mail. Gather an unknown quantity of gold.
Then change the payouts in the surf. Then warn people not to contact the offshore processors. Then blame people who do.
If this person is for real, then he was pumping the Oprah scam just five months before the launch of the surf. And it is inconceivable that he did not know about ASD, and the federal seizure amid wire-fraud, money-laundering and Ponzi allegations.
And it is inconceivable that he didn’t know about MegaLido and Noobing and the others — and it is incomprehensibly inconceivable that most of the others who came on board ADV4U didn’t know of the ASD litigation, the bizarre events at AVG and all of the previous litigation concerning autosurfs.
How many true victims exist amid these circumstances?
Participants defend the autosurfs by saying rebates aren’t guaranteed — only until rebates start to shrink or disappear. It somehow doesn’t become a scandal until they get ripped off. Never mind that they worked to create the pool of people who got ripped of.
Just another day in the incongruous world of the autosurf.
Patrick
admin(Quote)
Hey Patrick,
I hope you sold your Microsoft shares because I called their bank today and complained. Starting next week, none of their vendors will be paid and shareholders have received their last dividend.
dB
dirty_bird(Quote)
Hey, db, are you trying to start a rumour or something and damage Microsoft financial welfare with your negativity?
We’ll have to watch their Alexa rankings carefully for the next few days! lol
alasycia(Quote)
Hi d_b,
Heck, you just ruined my retirement. But I figure you’re just kidding. More than one person must have called the bank, huh? It’s always been my understanding that a bank must get at least 15 panicked emails before it seizes the assets of its rainmaker depositor without calling police, holds them indefinitely, performs a secret calculation — and then provides a pro rata refund to shareholders by a forumula it determines while operating blindly.
Hey, maybe AlertPay did call the police or the securities regulators in Canada. That way, a law-enforcement agency might be able to take steps to assure there is a level playing field for ADV4U victims.
Patrick
admin(Quote)
I just called 15 times using different names and voices. I wasn’t sure they were going to believe me when I used my helium voice but they went for the edited Alvin and the Chipmunks audio so I figured the bank wouldn’t be wise to the helium voice.
I really think you should do an investigative report on why money never has a problem flowing into these programs, it’s always the payouts that stop. I would think that if a payment processor had frozen an account, it would be in both directions. I guess not. It never is.
dirty_bird(Quote)
What negativity? I am positive I shut them down.
dirty_bird(Quote)
……yes, and let’s not forget our friend, the compulsive liar and Patrick Pretty poster, Serial Criminal Scam Promoter Steve Watt. He’s long been one of the pimps for AV4U, and has posted lies here about no longer shilling for these criminal activities. Zero chance he’s a victim — he was an ASD pimp as well, so he knew, 100%, that AV4U was illeagl from day one, but of course he doesn’t care — his downline covers his financial risk. Too bad his victims don’t have their risk covered.
Entertained(Quote)