BULLETIN: JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid Announces New Scam; Meanwhile, New Guidance From Frederick Mann Suggests Members Should Avoid The Word ‘Compound’
“‘Compound’ . . . is really a word which [members] probably shouldn’t use.” — Frederick Mann, purported operator of JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, from conference call-recording dated June 14, 2012
“‘Repurchase’ is a great one.” — “Dale,” JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid conference-call host, in response to Frederick Mann comment noted above, June 14, 2012
Frederick Mann
BULLETIN: (UPDATED 8:44 P.M. EDT U.S.A.) The JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid HYIP Ponzi scheme that advertises a return of 60 percent a month and is soliciting $20,000 “purchases” announced during its June 14 conference call that it was adding an autosurf to its stable. The precise date upon which the autosurf would be introduced was not announced.
The announcement about JSS/JBP’s autosurf was made only two days after AdSurfDaily autosurf operator Andy Bowdoin was jailed in the District of Columbia. U.S. District Judge Rosemary Collyer revoked Bowdoin’s bail after federal prosecutors proffered evidence that Bowdoin had been involved in AdViewGlobal, an autosurf that launched after the seizure of more than $80 million in the ASD Ponzi case by the U.S. Secret Service in August 2008.
Meanwhile, purported JSS/JBP operator Frederick Mann appears to have backed away from his March 15 guidance to members that it was OK to use the language of investments when pitching the “program” to others.
Like Zeek Rewards, an MLM “program” that plants the seed it provides a return of between 1 percent and 2 percent a day without being an investment program, guides members not to use certain words and brags about its purported “compliance” arm, Mann now is suggesting JSS/JBP members should avoid the term “compound” when describing the JSS/JBP program.
Mann, according to 2008 promos, was a pitchman for ASD, the same autosurf that led to Ponzi charges against the now-jailed Bowdoin. In court filings, the U.S. Secret Service and federal prosecutors described ASD as an enterprise that engaged in linguistic sleight-of-hand in an ill-fated bid to skirt securities regulations.
ASD had links to the so-called “sovereign citizens” movement. JSS/JBP also may have such links.
Prior to the 2008 Secret Service seizure of tens of millions of dollars in the ASD Ponzi case, ASD advised members not to use the language of investments. AdViewGlobal launched after the Secret Service seizure and, like ASD, advised members not to use the language of investments.
AdViewGlobal disappeared mysteriously in the summer of 2009. During the spring of 2009, the ‘surf announced it was having banking troubles.
Zeek announced on Memorial Day that it, too, was having banking troubles.
ASD, AdViewGlobal, JSS/JBP and Zeek all use offshore payment processors. All four enterprises have (or had) promoters in common, and all four enterprises are (or were) being promoted on notorious Ponzi scheme forums such as TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup.
On May 4, 2009 — the same date the President of the United States announced a crackdown on offshore scams — AdViewGlobal announced it had secured a new deal with an offshore wire facilitator. The ‘surf appears to have collapsed less than two months later.
As we previously reported, JSS/JBP is trying to prevent people from bringing up support issues in the weekly conference call.
Host “Dale” got short with a couple of callers who brought up support issues on the June 14 call.
She outright disconnected someone on the June 21 call.
Caller “Thomas,” who sounded like an older gentleman, said Frederick Mann was his sponsor and that JSS/JBP had not responded to repeated support emails that Thomas cannot get into this account.
“I need some help,” Thomas appealed. “I don’t need to be upset. I just got out of the hospital from having a stroke.”
Mann replied: “. . . In any case, this is a support issue.”
Dale then gave Thomas the boot.
Patrick
Quick note: During the June 21 call, Frederick Mann said JSS/JBP had “about” a million members.
Patrick
Hey Patrick, I think I’ve found another picture of Frederick Mann. Knowing how many ponzis and other shady operations he has been involved in, and his South African accent, I think may be (a very old) picture of him:
http://testimonials.ws/south-africa/craighall-park/i-sponsored-91-people-in-my-first-month-328860742291524374002081738445192703137.html?sponsor=
Quick note from June 21 call: Woman from Arkansas — “Kate” — says she is planning a “cruise” on Carnival Cruise Lines “out of Galveston, Texas” the last week of January 2013 through Feb. 2.
So, potentially an AdViewGlobal-like get-together for JSS/JBP on a ship at sea.
Patrick
I think you’re right about this, Tony. Thanks.
Patrick
Quick note: On the June 21 call, JSS/JBP mainstay “Norm” from “Alberta” urges Frederick Mann to be cautious about who the “company” hires.
Norm previously has complained about hackers.
Patrick
Patrick I would like you just to take a quick look at bannersbroker.com. I am fully convinced they are a ponzi scheme although some of my friends say they aren’t.
Thanks
Apparently JSS/JBP is behind the times. Zeek abandoned “compounding” and went to “repurchase” several months ago.
But as noted in the ASD case, language won’t save the company. It’s merely “Newspeak”.
More happy snaps
more links to pics of Frederick Mann
http://www.money-monitor.com/cms/upload/news/sysadmin/2012/04/4f9eb20301847.jpg
http://www.bigbooster.com/images/fred2c.jpg>> A true Ponzi like Zeek.
I read one comment from an employee of JSS refuting JSS to be a Ponzi because they earn money via Monthly membership. Oops, another ‘oh dear’ moment. Robbing Peter to pay Paul> clearly!
Gabe: FYI, the link you gave for bigbooster shows file not found. Guess Fred didn’t like his mug being shown any more.
You need to take out the extra characters at the end:
http://www.bigbooster.com/images/fred2c.jpg
Picture is confirmed to have BEEN on Justbeenpaid.com
http://www.tineye.com/search/show_match/183a8e6e12c658e3c18f4e75385d783c60616ae3/e3996bdb9f78dc7fbdc0fb553d8b3372e4f9b7d70e6e804cced9a22c1d3b047b?m13=0.0285282&m21=8.23995e-05&m22=0.936393&m23=-0.100886&m11=0.936393&m12=-8.23995e-05
NOTE: URL only active for 72 hours starting now, noon PDT
Any proof of people losing money in this?
What does that have to do with whether or not Just Been Paid is a fraudulent operation ??
Where did the story start that fraud is only fraud AFTER it’s victims have lost money ??
Surely Frederick Mann would be classified as a complete failure if people knew they were being defrauded BEFORE their money was gone ??
Isn’t that what fraud’s all about ??
Let me guess: You believe JSS/JBP, which advertises a preposterous return of 2 percent a day (a preposterous 730 percent a year), does not disclose its base of operations, has members who have sold numerous fraud schemes, has no known securities registrations, laments about “cruise missile” attacks, features a former AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme pitchman as its purported operator and boots a senior citizen who says he’s recovering from a “stroke” off its conference calls, is somehow both real and not a Ponzi?
And you simultaneously believe — and ironically share that belief on the same day Bernard Madoff’s brother started his journey through the federal system for enabling a Ponzi scheme that paid out a miniscule percentage when compared to JSS/JBP — that people should continue to plow money into JSS/JBP because there is no “proof” on the public record that JSS/JBP is a scam?
Here is hoping you don’t believe these things. If you do, please remember that Bernard Madoff “paid” right up until the day in December 2008 that he didn’t after running a Ponzi scheme for YEARS.
And please remember that Peter Madoff now admits he’d been in on the conspiracy with his brother since 1996.
https://patrickpretty.com/2012/06/29/urgent-bulletin-moving-peter-madoff-charged-criminally-civilly-bernard-madoffs-brother-enabled-the-largest-fraud-in-human-history-and-gained-millions-of-dollars-u-s-attorney-preet-bha/
Patrick
So much for the “the brothers turned in their father” narrative that all the newspapers carried for a while.
No wonder one of the brothers jumped out a window.
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