BULLETIN: Purported JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid Operator Frederick Mann Confirms For SECOND Time That ‘Program’ Pays Members With Funds From New Members; He Adds That ALL Payments Come From Members In Closed System
BULLETIN: Frederick Mann, the purported operator of the JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid HYIP “program,” has acknowledged once again — this time by implication — that JSS/JBP pays members from funds received from new members. And Mann, who said the “program” had about a million members and acknowledged that nonmembers could not make purchases, has gone a step farther, saying that all payouts to members came from the funds of other members.
During the June 28 JSS/JBP call, however, Mann again returned to the claim that members were getting paid by other members.
“I was just curious about . . . those million members,” a caller on the June 28 JSS/JBP conference call asked Mann. “So, those payments coming in from the million members right now are just being redistributed to . . . the group of the million members. None of the money is coming into the program from other nonmembers and none of the money is going out of the program to other companies? It’s just circulating in the program. Is that right?”
Mann replied, “That’s essentially right, yes.”
Paying “old” members with funds from “new” members is the central element of a Ponzi scheme.
But Ponzi schemes often also exist within systems in which a “program” effectively pools the funds of all members and then makes disbursements from the common pool to members who qualify for disbursements. Prosecutors and regulators may describe such an “opportunity” as a money-cycling scheme. Such schemes typically feature either the “classic” Ponzi stucture (money flow from “new” to “old” members) or a structure that is less-than-classic but still is a Ponzi (money from “all” to “all” members) — with the money coming from common contributors of an enterprise that has no meaningful income streams (or, indeed, no income streams at all) beyond what members contribute.
AdSurfDaily, which became engulfed in Ponzi litigation in 2008 that led to a plea of guilty to wire fraud in May 2012 by ASD President Andy Bowdoin, had elements of both “new to old” and “all to all.” ASD had income streams external to the Ponzi, but they were insignificant. Court records show that ASD had no underlying, profitable business to sustain its advertised payout rate of 1 percent a day. Like JSS/JBP, ASD operated a closed system — and JSS/JBP purports to pay a daily return double that of ASD’s while also advertising an ASD-like commission structure.
JSS/JBP announced on its website last week that it had hired a law firm in Utah.
That announcement followed on the heels of a statement by Mann last month that JSS/JBP members perhaps should avoid words such as “compound” when presenting the “program.” Despite Mann’s suggestion, JSS/JBP features a video on its website that — within the first 11 seconds — advertises, “Daily Compounding to give yourself an Automatic Pay Raise!”
Internal inconsistencies are one of the hallmarks of HYIP fraud schemes.